Help: FAQ

The answers to your Frequently Asked Questions offer a first glimpse of the more detailed help articles and will help you with your first steps on camptocamp.

The translation of this FAQ article is not finished yet. In the mean time, you can refer to the French version or . Don’t forget to move your mouse above parts of the pages, especially in the guidebook. Many useful tips and explanations are available as pop-ups.

Camptocamp.org (c2c) is a collaborative and interactive website. You will find information on mountains: recent conditions (such as snow cover), descriptions of summits and routes (ski tours, climbs…), photographs, technical articles as well as personal narratives. All these resources are editable by any logged-in user. You will also have access to a forum where you can share and discuss mountain-related issues without having to log in (do not abuse this freedom).

Camptocamp and me Summary

I want to subscribe

Nothing easier: Just click on “register” next to the camptocamp logo on the top left and then fill in the registration page following the indications. You will receive an email with further instructions at the address you provided. Note that you will not be able to change your login in the future but you will be able to change the name under which you appear in the guidebook and the forums.

I’d like to customize my camptocamp

To customize camptocamp to your own specific needs, just click on “Customize” on the top left of the page. You can specify the language of the content you wish to see on the home page (for articles, outings or the forum), the activities you are interested in or the ranges or countries for which you want updated conditions. You can do multiple selections and change them as often as you want. Once you have customized the site, a yellow light bulb will appear indicating that the content is filtered according to your preferences.

The site doesn’t accept my customization, I can’t disconnect…

Try to login from the homepage, after activating Javascript and erasing the Cookies (go to the options menu in your web browser tools). There are known bugs with Internet Explorer 6. If the problem persists, send an email to the moderators.

I’d like to change my user profile

As a user, you can modify all collaborative documents, create new documents, add outings to routes that are already described… To change the name under which your contributions to the guidebook will appear, click on “Customize” on the top left of the page then on “My preferences” and change the “Name displayed in the guidebook”.
To change your user page, click on your login on the top left, next to the camptocamp logo, to access your page and then on the “Edit” tab on the left to modify its contents. You can describe yourself, indicate your whereabouts, preferred activities and so on.

I’d like to georeference myself

Your whereabouts will only appear on your personal profile and on the interactive map if the “users” box is ticked. To georeference yourself, go to your profile page (clicking on your user name on the top lef of the page) and click on the “Edit” tab on the left. You can then indicate the latitude and longitude coordinates of where you are based. You can also use the map to automatically fill in the latitude and longitude fields (look at the small sized link above the coordinate fields).

I’d like to modify my forum profile

You can change the name under which you post on the forms. For that, click on “Customize” (top left of the page) and then on “My preferences”. You can then change the “Name displayed in the forum”. You can also include / delete an avatar (a small picture associated with your posts) or a signature. See the specific Forum FAQ below.

The site doesn't look right!

Check out this article on browser support to find out if camptocamp.org is well supported on your browser.

The guidebookSummary

Anyone can view documents but to create or modify documents, you need to be registered has a User (see section on "Camptocamp and me"). More detailed guidelines on using the guidebook are available in the Help article and the articles presenting the grades.

What is a summit, a route...?

Have a look at the detailled explanations by clicking on the Guidebook title in the top orange banner.
The guidebook is structured in top level documents, such as "summits", "huts", "sites".
The "summit" label groups different entities: high points, but also passes, lakes, cliffs...
A "route" is a way to reach a "summit": it may be a multi-pitch rock climb, a footpath, a ski track...

What about an outing?

A c2c "outing" is a personal document summarizing a climb, hike or tour out in the mountains, following one or various specific "routes" to one or several specific "summits", or a day spent at a crag or cliff (labelled as "sites" in the guidebook). An outing is always associated to a "route", except for crags in which case the outing is associated to a "climbing site" (see also paragraphs below).

What is a mountain massif, a region?

For the sake of simplicity, a massif is an homogenous set of summits surrounded by valleys. But massifs have not been defined for the whole planet and even parts of Switzerland are not assigned to specific massifs in camptocamp. To search for documents, you can also use administrative area, such as a French department, a Swiss canton or a country.

Why isn't there any information on the summit, the route or the climbing site in the outing?

You need to go up one level! The upper level is that of the "route" the outing is attached to, which you can reach by clicking on it on the top right column of the document. To reach the "summit", no need for crampons, but rather reach the level on top of the route, again by clicking on its name in the top right column.

This hierarchical organization of the information makes it easier to retrieve by other users.

What is the difference between a climbing site and a summit?

This is a trick question! A "climbing site" groups crags (single pitch climbs), whereas multi-pitch climbs are associated to a "summit". Traditionally, rocky summits are reached using long, multi-pitch, rock routes. Thus, multi-pitch climbs, both in the mountains and on lowland cliffs are associated to a "summit". The summit itself may be associated to a climbing site (look at the associated documents on the top right column of the document).

Why don't I find a crag for this summit?

Because crags (single pitch climbs) are associated to "climbing sites". By looking to the top right column of the summit's page, you might find that a "climbing site" is associated to the summit. In that case you'll find the crag there. Note that historically on c2c, few single pitch climbs are referenced. You will most likely only find a short description of the climbing site, maybe a list of the crags or a picture of it!

Why don't I find a multi-pitch climb in this climbing site?

See both paragraphs above.

Is it possible to create a climbing gym site in the guidebook?

Yes. As a "climbing site". Take care to select both the "climbing gym" site type and "artificial" rock type fields.

I'm looking for a summit, a route to a summit, etc.

Use the search engine! For example, move your mouse over Guidebook on the top orange banner, then on the type of document you are looking for (summit, hut...), and finally click on "Search". You then have to enter the name of the document you are looking for, either its complete name (but take care with dashes, name variants...) or part of it (avoid e.g. "mount", you'll have too many answers). Then choose the one you were looking for in the result list. You can make a more advanced search including elevation, massif and lots of other criteria.
The result list is not alphabetically ordered; to do so simply click on the "Name" label!

I'm looking for the name of a mountain massif and I only know the approximate position

Perhaps you know the name of a summit in this massif. Then you can search for it and access the corresponding area from that summit's page.
If you don't have such information, then it gets a little bit more tricky. But everything is possible! Click on "Search" under "Summit" of the Guidebook menu. In the web address, replace filter by query. Then open the interactive map and limit the search to visible borders of this map. Zoom in to reach the massif you are looking for. Then click on "Search", which gives you a list of summits. Select one of them and look for the area it is attached to.
Another way to do this is to use any interactive map on c2c. Move the area to the massif you are looking for, then select a summit by clicking on its icon on the map. You'll then find the associated area.

How can I add a summit, a route...?

You first need to ensure that this document does not already exist and thus need to do a search (have a look at the corresponding paragraphs). Pay a particular attention to summit on borders that may have different names. For routes, you must take care not to create a variation (in this case, modify the existing route, see next paragraph) but an original route, in order to avoid the multiplication of documents and dispersal of information. Do not hesitate to ask for advice in the moderation forum.

In order to create a document, move your mouse on the "Guidebook" item in the top orange banner, then e.g. "Summit" and click on Add".
Fill in all the information, and preview your document before publishing it.

To create a new route associated to a summit, you'll need to go through the summit document and use the bottom link "Create new associated route".

There are huge errors in this summit / route... description, how can I correct them?

It's easy. If you are certain of the validity of your information, you can make corrections by clicking on "Edit" in the left column, which gives you access to the edit page. Validate your modifications (after having previewed them) by clicking the "Update" button at the bottom of the page. If you are not satisfied with your modifications, click on "Cancel".

How can I add an outing?

Do this either from the homepage by clicking on the orange link within the left column: "Add an outing" and then following the instructions (select summit, route and then validate your choice) or directly from a route or site document ("Add an outing" link at the bottom of the page). For more information on how to fill in an outing, see the help. For incorporating pictures to your outing, see the section on pictures.

What kind of outing may I add?

Every outing is good, except the ones in a climbing gym. If some comments are important for climbing gyms, either modify the document or leave a comment on the document (by clicking the link on the left column) if the information is not permanent.